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Penn State student
in Antarctica answers
readers' questions

March 11, 2003

If this winter’s persistence has you frustrated, be glad you’re not experiencing summer in Antarctica. While it might be easy to imagine penguins thriving in the Antarctic, it probably is much more difficult to fathom life in Antarctica for a fellow Nittany Lion. But Paul Thur loves life near the South Pole. While working for the U.S. Antarctic Program to help build a runway on the Ross Ice Shelf, he also is earning his certificate in geographic information systems through Penn State's World Campus. What is it like being at the bottom of the world? Newswire subscribers asked and Thur answered.


Q: What is the ice depth where you are?

A: There are a few different types of ice around here. McMurdo is right on McMurdo Sound, which is part of the Ross Sea. So we have sea ice that abuts the land and we built a runway on the sea ice to use between October and the middle of December. The typical ice thickness is anywhere from 10 to 12 feet thick on top of the ocean. It's a bit daunting at times to think that there are a couple thousand feet of water under the heavy piece of machinery that we run. When the sea ice gets thinner in the warmer temps, we move runway operations onto the Ross Ice Shelf. The thickness of this snow/ice mix is from 100 to 300 feet thick, floating on the Ross Sea. There is snow on the top layer and once you get down 15 feet or more, it is ice because the weight of the snow on top is compressing everything under it.

As far as the age of the ice, the sea ice can be an annual thing. In a warm summer the sea ice can melt right up to the station and the Ross Ice Shelf, but this has not happened in many years. There is now a berg blocking the entrance to McMurdo Sound, which prevents the sea ice from breaking up and blowing out to sea. The berg has created many problems for us. Two or three year old sea ice gets rougher because of the pressure exerted on it by surrounding ice and the summer sun melts the surface. The age of the snow and ice in the ice shelf is probably several thousand years old. There is a good article in the last Scientific American about East Antarctic ice shelves and their deterioration.


Q: This is a bit of a reach, but as an ultimate playing alumnus from Penn State, I have to ask: Did you bring a Frisbee, or the like, to have some fun in the "warm" temperatures down there?

A: I did not bring a Frisbee with me, but there are some in town that can be seen throwing one around in the quad area near the dorms.


Q: Are you in any exercise program? If so, what? Do you or any of your colleagues use indoor equipment (treadmill, etc.)?

A: When temperatures are up in the 30's, it's not too bad to get out for a hike. People do run and bike outside, but I I am an indoor person. There are several gyms for us to use, so I use the treadmill, rower or stationary bike on a regular basis.


Q: How did you find out about Penn State's World campus?

A: I searched on the Internet for GIS programs and the World Campus link came up, so I checked into it. It was a great course and I plan on continuing through the certificate program.


Q: I understand Antarctica is often jovially referred to as a "harsh continent" by those who have experienced it. Could you provide some anecdotes to illustrate this point?

A: We have it made compared to the explorers who came down to this area a hundred years ago. Reading the accounts of their journeys, it is amazing that more of them did not perish. “Mawson's Will,” “Shackelton's Boat Journey” and “The Voyage of the Discovery” (Scott's last expedition) are all great reads and there are about 20 other books I've read but won't list here.

Mother nature is the thing that really wakes you up and slaps you in the face down here. During the summer (especially the beginning and the end) it is a 'busy' weather system time. The sun is setting or rising and the temperature changes help to create huge low-pressure systems. These storms can last several days to weeks, and the wind speed and blowing snow are just amazing. Some of the storms have had hurricane force winds and the only thing to do is sit around and wait it out. It really makes you feel like a very, very small piece of the whole picture.

The picture you see here was taken at the ice runway site sometime around October. We were in the process of unloading a C-17. The person in the picture is a crew member standing behind the plane trying to keep the wind at his back. (Click here to see the full-size picture.)


Q: I've been wondering about the so-called depletion of the ozone layer. It seems to grow and shrink periodically. Is the ozone finite or will it be able to replenish itself?

A: The ozone hole, this year, was the smallest it has been since they started keeping track of it in the 80's. That's a good thing. I do believe that they stated that it was so small because last winter’s weather pattern was different than normal and colder, so it kept the ozone from breaking down. I think that ozone is finite in the atmosphere and it can only get thinner, but I may be wrong.


Q: I have long been interested in traveling to Antarctica. I have one possible way already sought out and the application submitted. How did you, and do you have any ideas of where to apply to a trip to the ice. Have you traveled elsewhere on the ice, or mainly the McMurdo area? What exactly have you been working on there?

A: Ratheon Polar Services Company is the contractor that hires most of the employees down here. Their headquarters is in Denver and they have a job fair at the beginning of April. Look it up on their Web page.

I worked at the South Pole Station for a month a few years back and have also been lucky enough to get to travel in the dry valleys (across McMurdo Sound from McMurdo.) I work on runway construction and maintenance while I am here, a heavy equipment operator. If you want to come down as a researcher, there are many schools that have huge research projects that go on down here for years. Writers, photographers and artists come down through the National Science Foundation. I believe you send in a grant application to the NSF and they will bring you down here to do the 'legwork' for your project.


Q: What do you like most about Antartica, and what is the one thing you hate about it (other than its cold ... haha)?

A: The best thing about Antarctica would have to be the scenery and history. The huts that the explorers built a hundred years ago are still here and we are lucky enough to get to go tour them. Sometimes it is easy to forget where you are because it is so much like a town in 'the real world,’ but then you just have to look around and appreciate where you are. The thing I hate most about 'the ice' is the extended time away from people back home, but it just makes you enjoy being with those people even more when you get back to the states.


Q: Are there penguins in the Antarctic? I thought they were only in the Arctic. Are there polar bears there? If so, how is their health? I had heard they were not doing so well due to major ice melts.

A: I believe that the reverse is true. There are only penguins in the southern hemisphere and none in the Arctic. There are many different species down here, but only two that are in our area. No polar bears down here though. There are no permanent residents down here, only migratory animals, although the male emperor penguins stay during the winter to incubate their eggs.


Q: Is the Ross Ice Shelf the one that has significantly melted in recent years? Most importantly, what is your understanding of the effects of global climate change on the Antarctic?

A: I think in general the ice shelves are shrinking, but the Ross Ice Shelf has not deteriorated in the area where we are. Antarctica pretty much makes its own weather pattern and affects weather all over the globe. Stats show that Antarctica is actually getting cooler, not hotter, but you don't hear a lot about that since it goes against 'greenhouse' warming theory. One area that is getting warmer though is the Antarctic Peninsula (south of Chile) where the Larsen Ice Shelf just collapsed in a matter of a month. There are some amazing satellite images of that one.


Q: This question relates to the great Antarctic explorer Sir Ernest Shackleton. A year ago we went on an expedition cruise with Wilderness Travel of Berkeley, Calif. We visited many places related to Shackleton including Elephant Island, South Georgia Island, Grytvikin, the Weddell Sea and southern Chile. After we got back from our trip, we saw a British movie on TV about Shackleton's attempted trans-Antarctic expedition that set off in 1914. In that movie there were scenes about him having a mistress as well as a wife. In all of our shipboard lectures about Shackleton, none ever mentioned that he had a mistress. Our question is: Did Shackleton actually have a mistress or was that part of the movie made up to "spice up" the movie?

A:
I would speculate that the mistress was just made up for the movie since there is no mention of her in any of the journals or historical books. It would be nice to be able to get to South Georgia someday to see Shackleton's grave and the island that he crossed against all odds.


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